Man 1: It’s Quinn & Cantara, PYX106, 1800law1010, 1800law1010.com.
Man 2: Yeah. Paul Harding taking the day off. So for Martin Harding & Mazzotti, it’s Cassandra Kazukenus on the phone. Good morning, Cassandra.
Cassandra: Good morning. How are you guys?
Man 2: We’re good. We were talking about this, when they arrested the son of the owner of the limousine company involved in that fatal crash because it was…they pulled him over on the side of the road and I thought, “Well, did he have to be breaking the law for him to be pulled over?” And then we learned that he had his bags packed, and that he may have been fleeing. So we just had some questions around that, like…
Man 1: Yeah. Last time I saw a picture of his dad with a rocket launcher on his shoulder.
Man 2: Well, his dad got out of jail in Pakistan and came to the United States illegally through Mexico, I think.
Man 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Man 2: But I wanted to know, like, did they need a reason to pull him over or just the fact that he had his bag packed? Was that reason enough?
Cassandra: Well, you know, I don’t know the background. I don’t know if they already had the warrant for him. If they were already going after him to execute the warrant, then they’d have the reason to pull him over.
Man 2: And then if he had made it somewhere, would we ever be able to get him back here in New York?
Cassandra: It depends. So to extradite from another country, the state police or the local police would have to contact the federal government, and they’d have to go through diplomatic channels as long as the other country has a extradition treaty.
Man 1: Now, you’re saying that about… We’re talking about the kid.
Man 2: Talking about the kid if…had he made it.
Man 1: What about the father? Since you bring it up, I assume the New York State Police has to go through the same channels, but I…
Cassandra: Yeah. And Pakistan does have an extradition treaty with the United States.
Man 1: Okay. Yeah.
Man 2: But how often do we extradite people from Pakistan? Never, right?
Cassandra: It typically has to be more of… Not that this isn’t high profile, but I think it typically has more
Man 1: We got that guy from China this past week. Remember that? We extracted a guy from China, America did.
Man 1: It doesn’t happen that often.
Man 2: It’s extremely rare, though.
Man 1: Yeah.
Cassandra: I think usually it’s around, you know, money laundering, terrorism charges, more federal related than it is state of all.
Man 1: Can a guy like this get… Let me just, you know, personal opinion. I have, you know, first blush, whatever. Can he get a fair trial here in the Capital Region by American standards?
Cassandra: That seems hard, right?
Man 1: I imagine we’ll probably see, hey, you know, the defenders probably saying can you take it out of the [inaudible 00:02:28] town, please, you know, that kind of thing.
Cassandra: And, you know, but it’s also had national news. It’s not like you can go anywhere in New York and you haven’t heard of it.
Man 2: Well, I’m just putting myself in the victims…in the shoes of the victim’s family. And if this owner of the limo company doesn’t come back, and if the son was able to get out…get to get out of the country and never come back, then are you just left with nothing? I mean, who do you go after if that were the case?
Cassandra: Well, I mean, obviously, there’s no one left it seems, to me, from the criminal perspective, you know, if they have insurance, the liability stuff, it still exists. They don’t, you know, but they wouldn’t be here for a deposition, though.
Man 2: I just sit there going, “I, you know, I… It doesn’t seem fair.” But life isn’t fair, I guess, but there’s no way the guy can come here illegally, set up this business, and then flee the country, and never have to come back, and own up to it. It makes me angry, Cassandra.
Cassandra: Well, and they were just so young and trying to do the right thing.
Man 1: Yeah, I know. I absolutely…
Man 2: We had said that on the show.
Man 1: But I think like a lot of is going to come out in this trial, a lot of the deeper stuff with the federal government, you see?
Cassandra: Yeah. It seems every day there’s a new twist.
Man 1: All right. Say hi to everybody over there at Martin, Harding & Mazzotti.
Man 2: Yeah. Thanks, Cassandra. I appreciate the time this morning. It’s 1800law1010 and 1800law1010.com.
Cassandra: Thank you.
Man 1: Thanks, Cassandra.
Man 2: Yeah. Thanks very much. We appreciate it.
Cassandra: No problem.
Man 2: All right. See you.